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Posted - 10/05/2004 : 2:59:56 PM
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Everybody just start doing real real long post.. Drafters knows how
just remember Dale Jr. got cold busted for saying... Ship High In Transit For most of you that aren't aware of the meaning of the word. They use to ship fertilizer in the olden days, and the stuff would get moist in bottom of the ship's hull.... It would build gases along the bottom of the hull after becoming moist. On little flame or spark and it was Kaboom.
They figured out the best way to ship the manure was to store it higher so it would not become moist.
So they would put a sign on the manure saying... "Ship High In Transit>>>S.H.I.T become the abbreviated word, I guess the rest of mankind took it to a meaning other the transporting(S.H.I.T) The word is really not a bad word, but apparently some think it is, it's just manure.
We will save the word the king used to use to allow people to pro-create for some other day.
And now onto Dale Junior: No Delay? Dale Jr. should had said 'poop' UPDATE fined and docked points TO APPEAL: been asked by readers if Dale Earnhardt Jr. will be fine/penalized for his on-air curse during his post-race-win interview at Talladega on NBC. That is up to NASCAR, but here are a few tidbits found accross the Internet on the situation: 1) During the interview in Victory Lane with NBC's Matt Yocum, Earnhardt Jr. was asked what it meant to win for the fifth time at Talladega. Earnhardt Jr. replied, "It don't mean s--- right now. Daddy's won here 10 times." NBC later issued an apology for the inappropriate language. After several media requests, NASCAR is reviewing the post-race videotape, according to spokesman Mike Zizzo. Any penalty would be handed down Tuesday at the earliest, Zizzo said.(NASCAR.com) 2) ......off-color words he uttered on NBC during a postrace interview, which NASCAR is reviewing before deciding any disciplinary action. Earlier this season Johnny Sauter and Ron Hornaday Jr. each were fined $10,000 and docked 25 championship points for talking 'dirty' [using the same word...but in anger] during Busch Series broadcasts. If precedence holds, Earnhardt could go from 13 points ahead of second-place Kurt Busch to 12 points down with seven races left in the Chase for the Nextel Cup. "If anybody was offended by that, I can't imagine why they'd tune in to a race in the first place," Earnhardt said, later joking that he needed some Dale Carnegie classes. "There were a lot of hand gestures going on through the race, and that was weak compared to what you go through on the racetrack. But I hope they understand it was in jubilation. ... When you're happy and joyous about something, it's different from being angry and cursing in anger."(USA Today) 3) Asked about the matter, NASCAR vp/communications Jim Hunter said, "We're looking into it," adding that a decision would be made by Monday or Tuesday. Earnhardt seemed strangely subdued after the race, apparently aware that his slip of the tongue could prove to be costly. "I'm worried about losing the points lead, because I don't know what kind of deal will come out of it," he said. "If you guys [press] push the issue, in three or four days it could be a big problem. I just hope everybody understands it came out of jubilation."(Speed Channel)(10-4-2004) UPDATE - Fined and Docked 25 points: Driver Dale Earnhardt Jr. was penalized with a loss of 25 championship driver points and a $10,000 fine for an inappropriate post-race comment during the live national television broadcast of Sunday’s NASCAR NEXTEL Cup Series race at Talladega Superspeedway, NASCAR officials announced today. Earnhardt Jr., driver of the #8 Budwesier Chevrolet, was in violation of Section 12-4-A (Actions detrimental to stock car racing) of the NASCAR NEXTEL Cup Series Rule Book for using inappropriate language. The penalty also will extend to the team as Dale Earnhardt Inc. will lose 25 championship owner points for the actions of its driver. Earnhardt Jr.’s championship points total will be adjusted from 5,543 points to 5,518 as a result of the penalty, and will drop him from first to second in the Chase for the NASCAR NEXTEL Cup. Kurt Busch and Roush Racing will assume the lead with 5,530 points, 12 ahead of Earnhardt Jr. and DEI, respectively.(NASCAR PR) TO APPEAL: XM Radio - NASCAR Channel 144 reports that DEI will appeal the penalty. DEI Statement/Appeal: Dale Earnhardt, Inc. announced today that the #8 Budweiser eam that fields Chevrolet Monte Carlos for Dale Earnhardt, Jr. in the Nextel Cup Series, will appeal the NASCAR-imposed post-race penalty that cost the team 25 championship points and $10,000. Richie Gilmore, DEI Director of Competition, cites that the 25- point penalty under the new 10-race “Chase for the Nextel Cup” format could be devastating with only seven races remaining. “This is a huge setback for the entire company,” Gilmore said. “We’re in a sport that focuses its primary attention on the final 10 races of the season and we’re racing against formidable teams for a championship. We’re facing a setback from a competition standpoint for something that should be considered a personal foul. We have no choice but to appeal the points portion of the penalty. I think we’re the only sport that takes points off of the board after they’ve been scored. The popularity of this sport is based on colorful personalities and the fact that everyone can relate to these drivers and their emotions. Now, it seems like that’s a detriment. Dale Jr.’s comment was made in the excitement of the moment, seconds after he climbed out of the car. It wasn’t made in anger or hostility directed at anyone. This whole incident is going to force everyone in the sport to rethink showing any excitement in what should be a jubilant moment. We’ve had hundreds of calls from fans that support us. Our sponsors have vowed their support, as well. If nothing else, we can look back at this race and always remember it as one where we were reminded of the loyalty everyone has toward Dale Jr., the No. 8 team and our company.”(DEI Site)(10-5-2004)
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Posted - 10/05/2004 : 3:21:37 PM
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Who is getting personally attacked
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Four Wide Racing
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Posted - 10/05/2004 : 3:34:39 PM
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OK Boink Da Plan>>>>>> You got that cool website of your own You were able to put a cool Chat Room on it Maybe you can get a cool Message Board there also & while your at it...Build a Fantasy NASCAR Game for us Bad Folks to play
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Tuner Racing
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Posted - 10/05/2004 : 3:35:48 PM
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HUMMMMMMMM we now have a moderator, Ok I can live with that, but I have NEVER attacked anyone Well other than Brian France.........but hey the way he is running nascar into the ground he deserves it!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh well guess Freedom of speach is now limited!!!
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remmey
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Posted - 10/05/2004 : 3:52:55 PM
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| Ya know, I applaud Nascar for sticking to their guns...Docking points for something like this is stupid, but if you do it once, you need to do it to all. Obviously the Jr fans will feel as if they got ripped off and I am sure we will hear about this for a long time to come, but having to read all the BS that the Jr fans will post would be a lot easier to read if they had posted the same bitches and complaints when Hornaday and Sauter got stuck with the same fine. It was okay to do it to them I guess? It must have been, because there wasn't any complaining going on when that happened. Now without any disrespect for the Jr fans, now is the time to just shut up and get over it already. You know it was the right thing to do and any other actions would have been just wrong. |
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Posted - 10/05/2004 : 4:38:23 PM
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I have to concur with Remmey on this one. I also believe that handing out fines for something like this is stupid but 2 other prior penalties have been issued and I think that Nascar had no choice but to stay the course and give it Jr. also. I understand that alot of folks love the little "golden" boy but he has to follow the same guidlines as everyone else no matter who his father was! Along those same lines, I just wonder what the reaction would have been if jr. was the one who spun Biffle into Mayfield and eventually Stewart, would the same harsh (although deserved) attitude have been taken with him as with Robby? I bet not. Jr. is a talented driver and if he continues to perform like he has, the silver platter on his mantle will soon be replaced with a championship trophy so I don't Beleive HIS MISTAKE and point deduction should make that much difference.
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Posted - 10/05/2004 : 5:33:02 PM
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Ok people.. Been off line fer 2 days now.I do beleive Hami Jr got fined fer the same word too in victory lane.But the truth of the matter is that Nascar does this fer a reason and I do not beleive it is there agenda.Lets think about this ratoinally.NBC paided alot of $ to Nascar.FCC said that S_H_I_T ( as boink explained it by the way bro,great reseach),Is a no-No and fineable to all afliates that ran the race.So ya are talking about a huge fine to NBC or a slap on the hand to the offender.Yes I agree that the point thing is out of control. But look at our government and the FCC.As far as there concerned is that someone paid the price fer the bad word and the people(right wing fanadics),feel satisfied @ the result of the offensive word to them.Now does this put it in a differt prosepctive fer all to ponder?????? I personally think so....So dont blame Mike fer this until ya'll read the contract with NBC... That's my 2 cent's..........
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Ghost
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Posted - 10/05/2004 : 5:56:29 PM
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How does a word get put on the no no list? Who decides that? Was there a vote somewhere? Drafter you probally know. Manure, dung, feces, ain't those three word the same in their meaning? Why aren't they on the list?....Is it really the meaning that gets a word put on the list, or is it how it rolls off the tounge
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Posted - 10/05/2004 : 6:05:55 PM
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Mac, this is all about political correctness and that's a left-wing concept. In fact, all these alphapet agencies have been brought to us courtesy of left-wing philosophy. Lastly, Bush, the Republican Party and the misnamed neo-conservatives, decades ago known as Trotskites, are not right-wing. They may represent the right-wing of European political thought but they are far to the left of the right-wing philosophy America was founded on.
"It is thus necessary that the individual should come to realize that his own ego is of no importance in comparison with the existence of his nation; that the position of the individual ego is conditioned solely by the interests of the nation as a whole...that above all the unity of a nation's spirit and will are worth far more than the freedom of the spirit and will of an individual...This state of mind, which subordinates the interests of the ego to the conservation of the community, is really the first premise for every truly human culture...we understand only the individual's capacity to make sacrifices for the community, for his fellow man. - Adolf Hitler, 1933
"We must stop thinking about the individual and start thinking about what is best for society." - Hillary Clinton, 1996
Meanwhile, who was getting personally attacked????
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DEIGIRL
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Posted - 10/05/2004 : 6:36:09 PM
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Well Im not saying a word, silence. Just knew of course Rem my friend would jump on that one. If i lose my bet that I made in Vegas last June on the championship, then I will find it hard to be silent lol lol. "GG"  
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Posted - 10/05/2004 : 7:47:54 PM
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Mac, what follows are the words of a true right-winger commenting on the Janet Jackson incident. This represents real right-wing philosophy.
....The airwaves have been socialized for so long that most people accept it as natural and proper. It is neither. First, let’s get something straight: just because we call them “the public’s airwaves,” it doesn’t mean that’s what they are. Anything said to be owned by the public is actually controlled by the government — politicians and bureaucrats. If you think you are a real part-owner of the airwaves, try selling your “share.” Real owners can sell what they own.
The spectrum started out as a privately owned, homesteaded resource, as innovators discovered how to use it to satisfy various human wants (information, entertainment, et cetera). Of course, in the early days of radio, broadcasters interfered with one another’s transmissions. But rather than asking the government to nationalize the airwaves, they went to court, just as landowners did in cases of trespass. The courts responded by applying the common-law principles of ownership. As a result, an orderly system of private airwaves was emerging, until it was derailed in the 1920s by the commerce secretary, Herbert Hoover, who has an odd reputation as a champion of laissez faire. As historian Murray Rothbard described it, “Hoover by sheer administrative fiat and the drumming up of ‘voluntary cooperation’ was able to control and dictate to the radio industry and keep the airwaves nationalized until he could secure passage of the Radio Act of 1927. The act established the government as inalienable owner of the airwaves, the uses of which were then granted to designated licensed favorites.” In return for licenses, the government imposed various obligations. In recent years, those obligations have been eased or eliminated, but the government still holds the ultimate power to revoke the license of any television or radio station in the country.
You’d think someone would point out that it is strange for a reputedly paradigmatic capitalist country to have nationalized airwaves. I sympathize with parents who don’t want their children exposed to a lot of what’s broadcast today. But government control of what should be private property is no answer.
Sheldon Richman is senior fellow at The Future of Freedom Foundation, author of Tethered Citizens: Time to Repeal the Welfare State, and editor of The Freeman magazine. http://www.fff.org/comment/com0404n.asp
Here are some true right-wing sites. If you take the time to investigate them you'll find out what real right-wing philosophy is about and how the Republicans and so called neo-conservatives have little or nothing in common with that philosophy.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/
http://www.fff.org/
http://www.fee.org/
http://www.thenewamerican.com/
http://www.mises.org/
http://www.peikoff.com/
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Posted - 10/05/2004 : 7:59:54 PM
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....."While only one of many American intellectuals of the 1930’s, 40’s and 50’s who breathlessly rallied against the statist tide, and who collectively have come to be known as the Old Right, Garet Garrett is without a doubt one of the most penetrating, eloquent, and readable writers of that era. With writers like Frank Chodorov, Rose Wilder Lane, John T. Flynn, Albert J. Nock, and others, Garrett helped lead an intellectual movement that is today best described as libertarian, and at the time was considered "rightist," or "individualist" or "liberal" in the classical sense. When it comes to detailed and exacting attacks on the New Deal and on the proponents of American Empire, few are as thorough as Garet Garrett......
At least as early as 1938, Garrett was already well aware of the true nature of the New Deal. It was not merely an incremental change in the size and scope of government, but a true revolution "within the form." Garrett based these observations on the Aristotelian concept of the revolution that employs the "ancient laws" and claims to revere them while the true power has shifted from the traditional institutions to a new and revolutionary group hostile to the law they claim to defend.
Garrett believed that Roosevelt and the New Dealers had employed this tactic brilliantly, centralizing and seizing power after power, while many of his critics continued to discuss the legal minutiae of a revolution that had passed them by years earlier. Garrett is amazed by the resilience that Americans show in refusing to believe that any significant change had happened. Even after Roosevelt seized control of the entire American financial system, Americans refused to see the true meaning of what was going on. With Roosevelt’s leadership, the United States repudiated all of its legal and moral obligations to pay its debts to Americans in gold, it outlawed the private ownership of gold, it seized control of the entire banking system, it destroyed the savings of Americans with an unrestrained inflationary monetary policy, and generally enriched its treasury and its power-base by making countless new promises of largesse to Americans, and then making payments in devalued currency.
Americans had voted for none of this. In fact, the Democratic Party platform at the time specifically endorsed a hard money policy and called for "an immediate and drastic reduction of government expenditures." Roosevelt piously pledged that he would be bound by this platform, but as virtually all expansion of government power is based on deception, such promises proved to be worthless. For Garet Garrett, such lies were all part of the revolutionary plan, thus it was essential that one appear committed to the rule of law in order to be able to subvert it. Next would come a wresting of the economic power-centers of the economy from the private sector, a subtle takeover of private business through regulation, and finally, a substitution of a managed economy for a free one. Once economic control had been gained, political control would be easy to come by.
This is what Garrett saw as the revolution within the form. The Constitution was still revered in public. Words like "freedom" and "law" and "separation of powers" were still bandied about, but the meaning of the words had changed. "Freedom," for example, no longer meant the absence of government control. Now it meant having a claim on someone else’s livelihood, or as being one against the "greed" of the business classes. A decade before George Orwell would write 1984, Garet Garrett had discovered Newspeak, that essential tool of government in the modern democratic state.
By the time he would write his essay "Ex America" in 1951, Garrett had already seen many of the fruits of the Roosevelt revolution. The end of liberty and law in peacetime had of course been accompanied by its end in war as well. Garrett details its evolution: First to go was the separation of powers in domestic matters. With the rise of the administrative state, the entire relationship between the government and governed has changed: "the taxpayer who now goes on his errand to Washington is another person. He is timorous and respectful. He does not tell the bureaucrat; the bureaucrat tells him. He has the sense of dealing with a vast impersonal power, and it is power that may legally take away his entire income."......
http://www.lewrockwell.com/mcmaken/mcmaken103.html
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Posted - 10/05/2004 : 9:01:24 PM
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Martha sweetheart...If you lose your bet in Vegas because of this, I will cover it. I meant no respect to the loyal Jr fans as I stated. It's wrong to do what they did, but they set the standards and not abiding by them would have been ever more wrong.quote: Originally posted by DEIGIRL
Well Im not saying a word, silence. Just knew of course Rem my friend would jump on that one. If i lose my bet that I made in Vegas last June on the championship, then I will find it hard to be silent lol lol. "GG"  
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Team Budweiser
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Posted - 10/05/2004 : 10:34:28 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Four Wide Racing
OK Boink Da Plan>>>>>> You got that cool website of your own You were able to put a cool Chat Room on it Maybe you can get a cool Message Board there also & while your at it...Build a Fantasy NASCAR Game for us Bad Folks to play
If you Build It....We Will Come! 
Nothin' is as EXCITING as Four Wide Racing 
Were gonna stay here...It will be cool here. I don't want to commit to chat nite or a forum. Fantasy Thunder has a good game to play...
So lets round up some more wild and crazy players and give the folks a run for their money that are over pimping Morality!!!
The ratio is about 100 cool peeps to 1 complainer!!! I bet less than 8 called. 100 players or 1, not to hard to pick...
There are limits at other games and they vary from place to place. They did leave the part of Wheelie's joke about how much of his meatstick could reach over the counter after taking Viagra. So if they don't take this part out about the meatstick it's their fault and not mine, they didn't edit that... meaning that there is some tolerance. Wheelie is a very cool dude...I enjoy your jokes, they are funny!!!
Thanks Wheelz for the fun times weve had and the fun times were are gonna get into!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was a good joke that's been around for a very long time, and in reality has a lot of truth to it, that stuff happens in reality. No harm done in my opinion...and if someone is offended by that..
Now for the bigger question of the day...who is the moderator? I now know who it it is    Best part about racing leagues is that stuff ain't kept so secret... As Ole Rio said...Yousa Cold Busted
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Posted - 10/06/2004 : 03:13:16 AM
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..yep ..i know who the mod is too ..cant fool me ..with all that smoke and mirrors ..deception ..diversionary tactics ..dog napper ..twister of words ..it is you o EVIL ONE TO THE WEST ..grrrrrrr ..your secret is out ..siccum tripod
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Posted - 10/06/2004 : 05:34:51 AM
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quote: Originally posted by remmey
Ya know, I applaud Nascar for sticking to their guns...Docking points for something like this is stupid, but if you do it once, you need to do it to all. Obviously the Jr fans will feel as if they got ripped off and I am sure we will hear about this for a long time to come, but having to read all the BS that the Jr fans will post would be a lot easier to read if they had posted the same bitches and complaints when Hornaday and Sauter got stuck with the same fine. It was okay to do it to them I guess? It must have been, because there wasn't any complaining going on when that happened. Now without any disrespect for the Jr fans, now is the time to just shut up and get over it already. You know it was the right thing to do and any other actions would have been just wrong.
For once I agree with ya,Twocans.But I'm just wondering if you would be singing the same tune if Mr.Martin was the one guilty of the post race infraction? Which,by the way,would never happen,because first,you have to win a race to have the oppertunity to screw up like that,(that ain't happening fer ol' Mark),and second,Mark is too politically correct in all his reactions to any situation that arises.Mr."AW shucks,I'm just a driver,Mr. Rousch is the true hero" would never do anything to upset Mr. Helton's apple cart!! The 25 points deducted from Jr is just a minor setback and will only add to the fire in the bellies of the #8 team!
GO JR!!!
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Posted - 10/06/2004 : 07:02:43 AM
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Team Budweiser
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Posted - 10/06/2004 : 07:28:27 AM
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Tripod brought all the Intel, stuf with'em when he came... Good ploy, but he hardly raised his ears on that one... Besides he was get a pedicure, and was has a hot date tonight. TB
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Posted - 10/06/2004 : 12:04:01 PM
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What I'd like to know is how a word like sh*t was deemed bad. Did a group or one person decide that you shouldn't say sh*t. How can a word be bad. Bad words do have meanings.If it is used in the proper context it should be considered good English. Is the practice of Ebonics(black english)considered "good words". What if jr would have said "Don' be dissing me, I be fester dan all Y'all uda homeboys. If ya know who ma daddy is don' dis him neither cuz he won he 10 time uredy.
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Posted - 10/06/2004 : 2:20:00 PM
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....where do we draw the line in terms of what we decree as inappropriate nowadays? The Communications Act of 1934, which established the FCC, stipulated such a line. This law, penned by people born in Victorian America, decreed to be publicly inappropriate language that "describes or depicts sexual or excretory activities or organs."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A33486-2003Dec26?language=printer
Mac, Rososevelt was President in 1934. He was a left-wing democrat.
...."The FCC, charged with enforcing indecency and obscenity standards on the public airwaves, issued a ruling in October regarding the utterance of the "F-word" during a Fox broadcast in January. During the live Golden Globe Awards broadcast in January, Bono -- frontman for the Irish rock group U2 -- received an award and exulted, "This is really, really [expletive] brilliant!"
The FCC's enforcement bureau ruled that Bono's utterance was neither indecent nor obscene because it did not describe a sexual function.".....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A61109-2003Dec12?language=printer
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Posted - 10/06/2004 : 3:30:40 PM
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FCCquote: Originally posted by U of L Cards
What I'd like to know is how a word like sh*t was deemed bad. Did a group or one person decide that you shouldn't say sh*t. How can a word be bad. Bad words do have meanings.If it is used in the proper context it should be considered good English. Is the practice of Ebonics(black english)considered "good words". What if jr would have said "Don' be dissing me, I be fester dan all Y'all uda homeboys. If ya know who ma daddy is don' dis him neither cuz he won he 10 time uredy.
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Posted - 10/06/2004 : 3:49:15 PM
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Well Slip, I would feel exactly the same way if Martin was dumb enough to do something like that. Have you ever heard Mark say.." I need a caution, I'm gonna spin myself out?" No, I don't think you have. It's all about intelligence and how you were brought up. These guys make millions of dollars to do this, they win a race and all they have to do is talk for 5 minutes if that without saying any profanity? Come on, how hard is that? Now about winning races, Mark won Dover and didn't have any problem saying his speel without profanity. Don't go jumping on the boy for not winning, he still has more wins the jr, he has still finished higher then jr has and more times, and he earned his ride AND his fans by what HE did, not what his daddy did. Again I say the docking of points for this is lame, and my applaus to nascar was for the simple reason that they, nascar, finally kept consistent with themselves. If you remember correctly, Mark lost of championship because he had 25 points taken away from him so he knows how it feels. I'm sure this will pump up the butweiser camp, and it rightfully should. I wish them no wrong doing nor am I trying to be disrespectfull to the loyal converted Earnhardt Sr. fans. quote: Originally posted by Slipry Bob
quote: Originally posted by remmey
Ya know, I applaud Nascar for sticking to their guns...Docking points for something like this is stupid, but if you do it once, you need to do it to all. Obviously the Jr fans will feel as if they got ripped off and I am sure we will hear about this for a long time to come, but having to read all the BS that the Jr fans will post would be a lot easier to read if they had posted the same bitches and complaints when Hornaday and Sauter got stuck with the same fine. It was okay to do it to them I guess? It must have been, because there wasn't any complaining going on when that happened. Now without any disrespect for the Jr fans, now is the time to just shut up and get over it already. You know it was the right thing to do and any other actions would have been just wrong.
For once I agree with ya,Twocans.But I'm just wondering if you would be singing the same tune if Mr.Martin was the one guilty of the post race infraction? Which,by the way,would never happen,because first,you have to win a race to have the oppertunity to screw up like that,(that ain't happening fer ol' Mark),and second,Mark is too politically correct in all his reactions to any situation that arises.Mr."AW shucks,I'm just a driver,Mr. Rousch is the true hero" would never do anything to upset Mr. Helton's apple cart!! The 25 points deducted from Jr is just a minor setback and will only add to the fire in the bellies of the #8 team!
GO JR!!!
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Posted - 10/06/2004 : 4:10:46 PM
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Posted - 10/06/2004 : 8:16:25 PM
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Why ya pickin on me Drafter??????? I think I calling Dave about ya behavour..... .......Got to luv ya reference library.It is deep and impressive..TY..But the fact that what is said about NBC & Nascar is so close to the truth..
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Posted - 10/07/2004 : 09:59:08 AM
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Mac, not trying to pick on you but being a true right-winger and a victim of the right-wing purge of the 1990's I'm a bit thin skinned when I see right-wingers erroneously blamed for something. If someone has a problem with the FCC then blame the true culprits, FDR and the New Deal democrats under whose tenure the FCC was created. BTW, President Reagn, who started out his political career as a democrat, considered FDR to be one of the greatest presidents ever. Keep that in mind the next time you think of him as right-wing or conservative. The Democratic party has been taken over by left-wing extremists and the Republican party has been taken over by left-wing moderates.
Reviewer: Neo Noircat - See all my reviews This prophetic movie, about the hippy-dippy counterculture of the 1960s gaining absolute power and turning America into a fascist nation is dead on prophetic--Kent State, Woodstock, baby-boomer consumerism, are all on display in this film.
Think about it. Where is the politically correct silencing of speech, the mandatory "sensitivity training" coming from? Ex-Hippies, that's who. All those soccer Moms who now belong to teacher's unions and drive gas-guzzling SUVs, who adore the modern Mrs. Grundy--Senator Hillary Clinton--used to be flower girls. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00000F74J/qid=1097177934/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-1043689-2736610?v=glance&s=video
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Edited by - Drafters on 10/07/2004 12:59:27 PM |
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remmey
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