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Fast-N-Furious

USA
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Posted - 08/11/2004 :  4:29:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was asked to send this one out from someone I know soooo here it is!

Date: Tue, August 10, 2004 4:13 pm

Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his
shoe
and tried to light it?

Did you know his trial is over?
Did you know he was sentenced?
Did you see/hear any of the judge's comments on TV/Radio?
Didn't think so.
Everyone should hear what the judge had to say.
Ruling by Judge William Young U.S. District Court.

Prior to sentencing, the Judge asked the defendant if he had
anything
to say.

His response: After admitting his guilt to the court for the
record,
Reid also admitted his "allegiance to Osama bin Laden, to Islam, and to
the
religion of Allah," defiantly stated "I think I ought not apologize for
my
actions," and told the court "I am at war with your country."

Judge Young then delivered the statement quoted below, a stinging
condemnation of Reid in particular and terrorists in general.

January 30, 2003 United States vs. Reid. Judge Young: Mr. Richard
C.
Reid, hearken now to the sentence the Court imposes upon you. On counts
1, 5
and 6 the Court sentences you to life in prison in the custody of the
United
States Attorney General. On counts 2, 3, 4 and 7, the Court sentences
you to
20 years in prison on each count, the sentence on each count to run
consecutive with the other.

That's 80 years. On count 8 the Court sentences you to the
mandatory
30 years consecutive to the 80 years just imposed. The Court imposes
upon
you each of the eight counts a fine of $250,000 for the aggregate fine
of $2
million. The Court accepts the government's recommendation with respect
to
restitution and orders restitution in the amount of $298.17 to Andre
Bousquet and $5,784 to American Airlines. The Court imposes upon you
the
$800 special assessment.

The Court imposes upon you five years supervised release simply
because the law requires it. But the life sentences are real life
sentences so I need go no further. This is the sentence that is
provided for by our statutes. It is a fair and just sentence. It is a
righteous sentence. Let me explain this to you. We are not afraid of
you or
any of your terrorist co-conspirators, Mr. Reid. We are Americans We
have
been through the fire before. There is all too much war talk here. And
I say
that to everyone with the utmost respect. Here in this court, where we
deal
with individuals as individuals, and care for individuals as
individuals.
As human beings, we reach out for justice.

You are not an enemy combatant. You are a terrorist. You are not
a
soldier in any war. You are a terrorist. To give you that reference, to
call
you a soldier, gives you far too much stature. Whether it is the
officers of
government who do it or your attorney who does it, or that happens to
be
your view, you are a terrorist. And we do not negotiate with
terrorists. We
do not treat with terrorists. We do not sign documents with terrorists.
We
hunt them down one by one and bring them to justice

So war talk is way out of line in this court. You are a big
fellow.
But you are not that big. You're no warrior. I know warriors. You are a
terrorist. A species of criminal guilty of multiple attempted murders.
In a
very real sense, State Trooper Santiago had it right when you first
were
taken off that plane and into custody and you wondered where the press
and
where the TV crews were, and he said you're no big deal.

You're no big deal.

What your counsel, what your able counsel and what the equally
able
United States attorneys have grappled with and what I have as honestly
as I
know how tried to grapple with, is why you did something so horrific.
What
was it that led you here to this courtroom today?

I have listened respectfully to what you have to say. And I ask
you to
search your heart and ask yourself what sort of unfathomable hate led
you to
do what you are guilty and admit you are guilty of doing.
And I have an answer for you. It may not satisfy you. But as I search
this
entire record, it comes as close to understanding as I know. It seems
to me
you hate the one thing that is most precious.
You hate our freedom. Our individual freedom. Our individual freedom to
live
as we choose, to come and go as we choose, to believe or not believe as
we
individually choose. Here, in this society, the very winds carry
freedom
They carry it everywhere from sea to shining sea. It is because we
prize
individual freedom so much that you are here in this beautiful
courtroom. So
that everyone can see, truly see that justice is administered fairly,
individually, and discretely. It is for freedom's sake that your
lawyers are
striving so vigorously on your behalf and have filed appeals, will go
on in
their representation of you before other judges.

We are about it. Because we all know that the way we treat you,
Mr.
Reid, is the measure of our own liberties. Make no mistake though.
It is yet true that we will bare any burden; pay any price, to preserve
our
freedoms. Look around this courtroom. Mark it well. The world is not
going
to long remember what you or I say here. Day after tomorrow it will be
forgotten. But this, however, will long endure Here in this courtroom
and
courtrooms all across America, the American people will gather to see
that
justice, individual justice, justice,not war, individual justice is in
fact
being done. The very President of the United States through his
officers
will have to come into courtrooms and lay out evidence on which
specific
matters can be judged, and juries of citizens will gather to sit and
judge
that evidence democratically, to mold and shape and refine our sense of
justice.

See that flag, Mr. Reid? That's the flag of the United States of
America. That flag will fly there long after this is all forgotten.
That flag stands for freedom. You know it always will.

Mr. Custody Officer. Stand him down.

So, how much of this Judge's comments did we hear on our TV sets?
We
need more judges like Judge Young, but that's another subject. Pass
this
around. Everyone should and needs to hear what this fine judge had to
say.
Powerful words that strike home.

God bless America


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ut20893

usa
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Posted - 08/11/2004 :  5:00:38 PM  Show Profile  Visit ut20893's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey Fast, God bless America, I am a vet and this is a good post in my opinion. I think you are a true American. Go USA. If anyone has a problem with this, then they are in real trouble with all of us that support the USA.

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Cowboy Jim

United States
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Posted - 08/11/2004 :  5:31:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Judge William Young makes this VFW proud! Nice post F-N-F!
I will spread it around!
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Four Wide Racing

USA
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Posted - 08/11/2004 :  5:33:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Drafters

USA
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Posted - 08/11/2004 :  8:34:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is much that the media never tells you. Let me see what I can find in the F-Files.
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Drafters

USA
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Posted - 08/11/2004 :  8:53:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
While this did appear in a somewhat mainstream media outlet the Wall Street Journal isn't something that most Americans read. This true account of Ruby Ridge should have been on the front page of every newspaper and on ABC, CBS, NBC and CNN.

From the Wall Street Journal, 1-10-95, page A24:
...Mr. Weaver did not favor violence against any other
race, but believed the races should live seperately.
Because of his extreme beliefs, he was targeted for a sting
operation..... ....On Aug. 21, 1992, six heavily armed,
camouflaged U.S. Marshalls sneaked onto Mr. Weaver's
property. Three agents threw rocks to get the attention of
Mr. Weaver's dogs. As Mr. Weaver's 14-year old son,
Sammy, and Kevin Harris, a 25-year-old family friend living
in the cabin, ran to see what the dogs were barking at, U.S.
marshals killed one of the dogs. Sammy Weaver fired his gun
in the direction the shots had come from. Randy Weaver come
out and hollered for his son to come back to the cabin.
Sammy yelled, "I'm coming Dad," and was running back to the
cabin when a federal marshal shot him in the back and killed
him. Kevin Harris responded to Sammy's shooting by fatally
shooting a U.S. marshall. Federal agents falsely testified
in court that the U.S. marshall has been killed by the first
shot of the exchange: evidence later showed that the
marshall had fired seven shots before he was shot himself.
...Four hundred government agents quickly swarmed in the
mountains around the cabin. Most important, the federal
agents at that time made no effort to contact Mr. Weaver.
The next day, Aug. 22, Randy Weaver walked to the little
shack where his son's body lay. As he lifted the latch on
the shack's door, he was shot from behind by FBI sniper Lou
Horiuchi. As he struggled back to the cabin, his wife,
Vicki, stood in the doorway, holding a 10-month old baby in
her arms and calling for her husband to hurry. The FBi
sniper fired again and hit Vicki Wever in the temple, kiling
her instanly. (Mr. Horiuchi testified in court that he
could hit within a quarter inch of a target at a distance of
200 yards.)......Neither Randy Weaver nor Kevin Harris fired
any shots at government agents after the siege began. An
Idaho jury found him innocent of almost all charges and
ruled that Kevin Harris's shooting of the U.S. Marshal was
self-defense......
One of the most disturbing aspects of Mr. Freeh's slaps
on the wrists last week is his treatment of Larry Potts, Mr.
Freeh's pick as acting deputy FBI director. Mr. Potts was
the senior official in charge of the Idaho operation and
signed off on the shoot-without-provocation orders. Despite
the finding by the Justice Department that the orders
violated the Constitution, Freeh recommended that the only
penalty Mr. Potts face be a letter of censure-the same
penalty Mr. Freeh received when he lost an FBI cellular
telephone.
The Weaver case is by far the most important civil-
rights/civil liberties case the Clinton administration has
yet resolved-and it resolved it in favor of granting
unlimited deadly power to federal agents. If the new
Republican congressional leaders let the Justice Department
and the FBI get away with what may have been murder, they
will be accomplices to a gross travesty of justice.

From Soldier of Fortune magazine, January 1995, pages 84 &
85, by James Pate:

Gritz made it his intial priority to convince Weaver to
allow Vivki's body, which had begun to putrefy after a week
on the kitchen floor, to be removed. Weaver agreed.
It was a traumatic moment for Kasulas, King, Sexton, and
other agents on the mountain who - like most good citizens -
were shocked and outraged.
As her body was borne through the door and over to an
armored personnel carrier, Gritz recalled, "I saw FBI agents
dressed in Ghillie suits and camouflage, tears running down
their faces. They suddenly realized, I think, that Vicki
Weaver was not some kind of an evil person, but that she was
a mom and she was dead and she was leaving that cabin with
her little girls screaming in despair behind her."
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T&L Wheelock Racing

USA
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Posted - 08/11/2004 :  9:06:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
and I am not a vet and a very true AMERICAN......but I see nothing here that procludes me from saying.... DAMNED GOOD JOB.. JUDGE WILLIAM YOUNG.... piss poor job of our press.... as usual..

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Heavy Chevy

USA
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Posted - 08/12/2004 :  10:45:37 PM  Show Profile  Visit Heavy Chevy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Awesome post, Fast, Now I gotta go search for more on this, Thanks for the boost also Drafter., Go USA, Let freedom reign!..........................Peace
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Drafters

USA
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Posted - 08/13/2004 :  10:14:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
...."All of us just want to live in an America where our rights and pursuit of happiness is protected. And so we fight. And now we've found ourselves here today in a room with hundreds of others in the same boat.

I have one thing to tell you. You are not going to win. Because the other side has cut us up into little pieces. They've divided us and conquered us.

They've succeeded because you think your fight is against gun control. Because you think your fight is against bad schools. Because you think your fight is against the Endangered Species Act and roadless programs, and wetlands regulations, and water rights and Heritage Areas. Because you think your fight is against Democrats and not Republicans. Because you think it's a fight between evil liberals and good guy conservatives.".....

http://www.newswithviews.com/DeWeese/tom13.htm
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